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BEWARE of plans offered by the outfit calling itself BRUCE ROBERTS INTERNATIONAL or more recently FINELINE BOAT PLANS ... operated by PHIL HOGG, PAUL TAYLOR & OR WHOEVER ELSE ANSWERS THEIR EMAILS !!! ... These illegally copied out of date & counterfeit plans are incomplete & outdated & boats built from those plans may have design  faults that we have long since corrected. Boats built from these plans will almost certainly NOT pass your local marine safety regulations. IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS AS TO WHO IS THE LEGAL OWNER OF BRUCE ROBERTS PLANS - CHECK THE NUMBER OF NEW DESIGNS  ON OUR OFFICIAL WEB SITE - THE OLD OUTDATED ILLEGAL COPIES OFFERED BY OTHERS ARE STUCK IN AN 1970'S TIME WARP !!!

OUR PLANS ARE ALL NOW UPDATED:
All of the SPRAYS, ROBERTS, NEW YORK, WAVERUNNER, COASTWORKER  & OTHER ROBERTS designs have been updated with new and additional sheets that have been added to the plans and full size patterns. YOU will need these new sheets to allow your boat to pass YOUR local authority rules and registration requirements. 

OUT OF DATE PLANS:
The following plans have been replaced by new designs and the plans below are OUT OF DATE & NO LONGER OFFERED FOR SALE BY DESIGNER ... If you already OWN one of these boats we will be happy to offer you advice but do NOT consider building one from outdated plans ... there are MANY more up to date designs available at this time.  

Adv.18, R24, Adv24, R27, R29, R30, R32, HM32, R34, Roberts OFFSHORE 38, MAURITIUS & NORFOLK 43, Roberts 45, Classic 45, HM50,HM57, Spray 50, Spray 60, Waverunner 20, WR22, WR 33/33, WR 36, WR1100D , PCF 36, SF 47, CS45TY, SF47, TY 29, TY 32, TY45/48, TY56, BERMUDA 485. 

BLACK LISTED:
Also not supported and are in fact BLACK-LISTED are Sprays built by Dolphin Boats that are blatant copies of plans originally designed by Bruce Roberts-Goodson. All Bruce Roberts designs built by Fortuna Yachts in South Africa are crude copies of Bruce Roberts designs and are therefore BLACK-LISTED by us. Roberts 341's built by Marquis Marine in Canada  are also black listed due to unpaid royalties.  If you are offered these or other  OUTDATED & or incomplete plans ... Do NOT waste your money ! ...  Masters 45's built in Florida ...  Roberts 450's  built in Taiwan. Both the foregoing were built from old outdated and pirated plans the keel are all wrong and the boats suffer from excessive weather helm ! ... The boat marketed as the ADVENTURE 7 is an illegal copy of the Roberts 22 ....  The COAST 34 is an illegal UNAUTHORIZED copy of the Roberts 341... MARZCRAFT (Australia)  these boats are illegal copies of the Roberts 35 ... SPRAY 28 built by Maurice Huffey and Ron Atherton UK these are illegal copies of the Spray 28, and Roberts 25 and  Roberts 26 etc. built by the Humber Boat Company  There are more but you can check with us before your buy any Bruce Roberts designed boat.

 

Hello Bruce, I recently purchased plans on line from an outfit called, Plans4Boats. http://www.plans4boats.com/  Well, it turned out to  be just a scam. They have excerpts from your plans and publications. I thought you would want to know. I detest people who steal another man's work. What I received was scanned copies of boating articles from, Popular Mechanics Magazine, 1940s - 1960s era, as well as your publications. Example:  How to Build a Sailboat, Chapters 1- 24, appendix  ....  Chapters 18 -20 are about the Spray design.   It has so many references to your designs that I believe he ripped off one of your books and is selling it. This guy is stealing the work and creativity of other men. He is a parasite.   I say "He" but, I am afraid it is really just some European organized crime scam to obtain credit card numbers.ikes, what a world.  Regards, Richard Flaherty

ABOUT DESIGNER: Bruce Roberts-Goodson:
Born in Victoria Australia Bruce was educated at Eltham High School & then studied yacht design through the US based Westlawn Institute of Marine Technology. Bruce entered the marine industry and for several years operated a boat yard in Brisbane where he completed an informal boatbuilding apprenticeship.

In 1966  In Brisbane Australia ... Bruce founded BRUCE ROBERTS YACHT DESIGN in partnership with Andrew Slorach ... Andy is still involved in the business SEE AUSTRALIAN WEB SITE.

In 1972 Bruce opened his US design office. Bruce has since designed a huge range of sail and powerboats that have been built in fiberglass, steel, aluminum and wood epoxy.

In 1972 - 2009  Bruce opened additional design offices in USA, Holland & Ireland

In 2010 - Today ... Bruce personally prepares the preliminary plans and supervises his staff of naval architects in Holland, USA, Ireland and Spain;  he also finds time to pay regular visits to the various Bruce Roberts Yacht Design offices around the world. Recent projects include a 75ft R/C charter schooner, Voyager 450 R/C steel sailboat (pre-cut steel), Euro 20 m / Waverunner 65 (pre-cut steel ), Trawler 485, Trawler 520, 65 ft wood / epoxy sailboat especially for wheel-chair bound sailor As you can imagine Bruce does not do it all alone and we are pleased to announce that we have added additional Naval Architects to our growing staff.

Bruce in company with his wife Gwenda who have cruised in USA, Canada, Australia, plus many areas of Europe and Scandinavia; currently cruises in European waters. You will find that Bruce will personally answer your email within 24 hours or less ! 
EMAIL BRUCE

Bruce is the author of the following books .. METAL BOATS, CHOOSING FOR CRUISING (Sailboats),  SPRAY The Ultimate Cruising Boat, e-BOOK CHOOSING A CRUISING POWERBOAT,  e-BOOK BUILD YOUR OWN SAILBOAT  plus hundreds of articles on boatbuilding that have been published in the yachting press world wide.

NEW BOOK NOW AVAILABLE;  Illustrated Custom Boatbuilding ... this is what the DIRECTOR OF the publisher ADLARD COLES has to say about the first draft of the text:  "Dear Bruce, I've now been through your manuscript - and what an impressive  beast it is too! You've done a grand job here, Bruce."  Janet Murphy Director

Please remember - if Bruce's photo is not on the web site you are  not dealing with the official design office & your bruce Roberts plan will not be recognised by the designer - also boats built from pirated or stolen plans will be forever black-listed & difficult to re-sell !  everyone considering purchasing a pre-owned Roberts design contacts us for advice so make sure the boat you build is legal !

If you doubt who is the REAL Bruce Roberts .. just count the number of kits and plans offered by Bruce as opposed to others!  Check the design dates !  The plans we offer are currently updated plus every year we add at least 6 new designs to the Official Bruce Roberts plan and kits.

Any boat being sold as 'Designed by Bruce Roberts' will eventually come to our attention ... BUILDING FROM STOLEN OR OUT OF DATE PLANS ... totally destroys the resale value of your boat. .... Check before you buy ... EMAIL TO CHECK OUT IF THE PLAN YOU ARE BUYING IS AN UPDATED AUTHORIZED PLAN OR A PIRATED COPY.

WHEN YOU BUY A SECOND HAND BRUCE ROBERTS BOAT ... MAKE SURE THE ORIGINAL AUTHORIZED PLANS ARE INCLUDED WITH THE BOAT OTHERWISE THE BOAT MAY HAVE BEEN BUILT FROM PIRATED PLANS !  SEE LIST OF NEW & CURRENT PLANS & KITS

BEWARE OF THIS RIP OFF !

Dear Mr Roberts,  
I recently purchased study plans on DOWNLOAD or on CD - YOU CHOOSE DOWNLOAD OR CD. . .
from you, thank you as I am very very happy with your prompt service and the detailed information on your DOWNLOAD or on CD - YOU CHOOSE DOWNLOAD OR CD. . .
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I have spent countless hours on the internet looking at boat building sites and purchasing study plans etc, in the course of my studies I on many occasions stumbled across this web site  http://www.plans4boats.com

I never ordered anything from them as I just don't like the "look" of the site. Anyway I eventually weakened and purchased their so called 200 + plans and blue prints. The only way you can get a true glimpse of what they supply is by buying the product.
 
These people are scammers! their plans are scans from old magazines AND one zip file is your free e-book on "How to build a sail boat" which came on your DOWNLOAD or on CD - YOU CHOOSE DOWNLOAD OR CD. . .
of study plans with the Spray series of vessels that I purchased. I tried to attach this file for you to look at but it is 10MB and wont attach.  This is the first site I have come across in the boating community that are, I think, ripping people off as the information supplied from them I already have seen and DOWNLOAD or on CD - YOU CHOOSE DOWNLOAD OR CD. . .ed from other free boat plan sites (Zip file on fishing boats for another example). The information of yours that they sell technically wasn't free and only supplied when your study plans are purchased.
 
They to me are breaching copyright and are making money under false pretences. I hope I am not wasting your time with this email but I am sure you would like to know of these people who are clearly re selling yours and others material without prior consent.  Best regards,  Edward Shiels.

March 2009 ... THE FOLLOWING ARRIVED RECENTLY & I BELIEVE SAYS IT ALL !!!

Hi Bruce,

Received your study plans posted March 20th today and although I haven't run through all of them yet, I find that the 1600 plans are very informative, considering the number of prints. (compared to others).

There is however, one other plan I have to purchase from you - the TY 57.  How I missed that one, I don't know, probably because I didn't read the fine print, "it is also available in steel" and because of that, my wife jumped all over me.  Once we decide on the vessel I'll be contacting a couple of yards for a building quote, Yachtsmiths International in Nova Scotia is one of them - I'm sure they can handle aluminum or steel. BRUCE says ... I have emailed all the TY 57 prints to Ted with my compliments.

After reviewing marina costs along the east coast I've found that the mooring or docking costs jump dramatically for a +60 foot vessel, if they have the facilities for that size.  So we decided to run with a vessel that's in the 50 foot range which is plenty in square footage for the two of us plus a couple of guests (I guess my macho alter ego was taking hold of me on the wr65 and the ty62's).

Now with that aside, I would like to give you my thoughts as to what I found on the internet about Bruce Roberts.

I'm quite appalled and confused about the hand you've been dealt by people like Bruce Roberts International Australia or "Fine Lines Boat Plans and Designs" et al.  They're blatant and outrageous link on the home page "Answers to allegations from competitors website" is a direct slam to both you and your organization, and the blog, is certainly belligerent at best. 

Now I've known and dealt with you since the mid 80's, but I can't fathom why they are doing this.  I've even sourced maligning blogs on the internet as coming from their region in Australia under different ID's - what are they playing at?

Where does Australia get off, they are implying throughout the internet that they are the actual designers (from what I can tell).  Well guess what, the dolphins and Almarine s are a duplicates of your designs.  And as to Almarine, it looks like they're out of business, on the net anyway, and are now affiliated with a company called Bonito Boats - Hans Alma.  What do you find on their site, low and behold it’s the Euro's with an Almarine logo on the prints implying that, once again, they are the designers. 

My concerns on the vessel of choice is, who designed it, who is licensed for the design, will I get the support be it free or invoiced and, the accuracy of drawings.  You are ahead in all of the above, even if you didn't design the vessel of choice.  And when I see a "blueprint" with the name Bruce Roberts on it then I assume you are the one that is taking full rights to it.  If Bruce Roberts International has a problem with you then they should rename their site (which I assume they are trying to do) and if anything, stop with the blatant attacks on the net - maybe that's how they're entertained.

I think I'll stick with the old guy who started it all, and with your permission that's how I'll answer those blogs, because if anything I can't stand dated blogs that bend the truth about people and companies.

Thanks again,  Ted